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MY PRACTICE PHILOSOPHY
By: Michael E. Thomas


My approach to estate planning has changed dramatically recently and is different from the average attorney in this area. The purpose of this paper is to explain my philosophy and why it is best for the client and best for the advisor whether a broker, agent, or CPA. I will explain first how I handle the client, next how I design the plan, and finally how I follow up. Hopefully, you will see the benefits to my approach, recognize how it sets me apart from other estate planning attorneys.

Pre-interview

When a client calls for an appointment, he or she is sent a detailed checklist to fill out and bring in to the appointment. The information is reviewed with me, I devise an estate plan, and the client is assigned to the counselor who can best serve that client's needs, which might be me. I see every client, but I will not meet the second time with every client. I have come to realize that I cannot help everyone who calls. I do, however, want every client to receive the treatment he or she deserves. My practice is based on ministry-not money. So each client is treated with equal dignity regardless of economics.


With the repeal of the estate tax some clients are wondering what to do about estate planning. I tell the client that tax considerations are the least important thing to him or her and then I explain why. Every client agrees with me.


Client Interview
The first hour or so, I spend asking detailed questions about the family, the relationships with kids, in-laws, grandkids, or others. I ask about how the various family members handle money. I ask about the strength of the marriages. I ask about drug problems, disabilities, and sibling rivalries. These are issues that must be addressed if I am going to really help the clients. I must know about the family before I can address assets.


The first thing I teach the clients is that estate planning has only a little to do with taxes. I ask the clients a series of questions to prove to them that tax avoidance is their smallest priority. Here are the questions I ask as I explain what the law does if the client has no plan.


1. Control of Assets
"If you could give up control of your assets and let the government control them and avoid tax, would you do that?"

2. Control if Disabled
I then explain to them how the probate court is involved if either of them is disabled and ask, "If you could control what happens to your assets (privately) if you are disabled, but pay some estate tax, or if you could let the court handle everything as a public record, but pay no tax which would you choose?"

3. Control After Death
I tell the clients what happens to their assets at death. If they have children who have shaky marriages, bad spending habits, drug or alcohol problems, or a disability, they may not want to pass assets to them outright. I ask, "If you could exercise some control after death in order to protect assets, but pay some taxes, or have no control and pay no taxes, which would you choose?"

4. Asset Protection
I inform the husband that if he dies and leaves everything to his wife, ALL investment assets, the cottage, etc. will be subject to a lawsuit. So if she should have an unfortunate car accident and a couple of people are killed, she could be effectively wiped out. "If you could protect assets for your spouse from all lawsuits and pay some estate tax, or you could leave the assets open to lawsuit and avoid tax, which would you choose?"

5. Remarriage Protection
I next explain that if husband dies and wife remarries, wife does a new will leaving the new husband nothing, and wife then dies, that the state says the new husband can elect against the will and take $55,000, $17,000 homestead allowance, $11,000 personal property allowance, up to $20,000 living allowance, and 25% of the balance. I further explain that if the couple has a trust, I have seen the new spouse, over the years, end up with most of the trust assets in joint name, so little passes to the kids. "If you could absolutely protect your assets from intrusion by a new spouse, and pay some tax, or have no protection and pay no tax, which would you choose?"

As you might guess, the clients always choose to pay the tax. I tell the clients that even if federal estate tax is repealed, they have told me they need planning. I also tell them that we can offer all of the protections and avoid federal estate tax.

The Design
The next phase of the interview is the design phase. I am careful to tell the clients that I do not charge for documents. I charge for design. The design phase is another area where I am different for a number of reasons. First of all, my disability provisions offer the clients the opportunity to design a panel to determine they are disabled, and give specific- instructions for who receives help if the client is disabled and who manages money. I include disappearance as establishing disability, which allows the family to access the trust if we are waiting for a 5 to 7 year statute to run before we can declare a person dead.

I design the marital and family trust so that both trusts are protected from lawsuit after the death of the first spouse.

I have a special remarriage provision that allows payments upon remarriage only if the surviving spouse's estate is protected by a prenuptial agreement. That makes it difficult for a new spouse to take assets intended for the children or grandchildren. I have not seen that provision in other trusts.

I include for the children's protection specially drafted drug, alcohol, and gambling provisions to protect trust assets against the possibility of a child or grandchild suffering an addiction. I include disability provisions that protect assets if a beneficiary should be unexpectedly disabled. I include an option for a convenience-protective trust for each beneficiary. After a predetermined age the beneficiary's assets are not distributed, but remain in trust. The beneficiary and a third party are named trustees of the beneficiary's share, and the beneficiary is given free access to the trust, except for creditors. If a creditor (or a divorcing spouse) attack the trust, the third party has no discretion to distribute funds to the creditor. So the beneficiary enjoys some creditor protection for life. I have not seen this provision widely offered.

I also instruct the clients (and brokers, agents, or CPAs) in elections and beneficiary designations to allow the qualified benefits to pass to children or grandchildren without immediate income taxation.

I give the clients a personal legacy questionnaire if they desire to pursue it. I ask the clients if they would like to leave their children a letter outlining their value system and reminding the children of memorable events in their relationships. This letter will be presented to the children after death. I give them a copyrighted questionnaire. They fill it out and I send it in and a Personal Legacy Declaration is sent to me along with a computer disk to expand upon it. Some clients are thrilled about this.

I also tell the clients that I will take their medical powers of attorney and enroll the clients in DOCUBANK®. This is a company who electronically copies the POA and a list of contact persons and sends the client a plastic card with his name, a file number and instructions. If the client is hospitalized anywhere, at anytime day or night, the hospital can call the 800 number on the card and punch in the file number and the hospital fax number. The power of attorney and the contact list will be faxed to the hospital. I know of no one in this area offering this service. The cost is about the cost of a safe deposit box. My clients pay about half price, unless they are on my Estate Plan Maintenance System, (explained below) and then I pay for them.

This interview process takes perhaps two hours. I explain to the clients that this design is more in depth than a standard interview followed by document preparation. Thus they will get a plan designed for the specific needs of their family. The fees will be more than they would pay for standard, one-size-fits-all trusts. My fee structure for this planning is between $2000 and $5000, depending on the needs of the client. The question is simply whether they see value here or not.

Most of my clients are grateful for the extensive amount of time I take with them and the commitment I require from them. Some are looking for the cheapest thing they can find. They do not become clients.

Keep in mind that clients with smaller estates will not pursue some of the options I have mentioned above and will be charged significantly less. They will be given some op 'ons suc as protection and remarriage protection. At all times fees will be adjusted if a client has a need and limited resources. Ministers and those in vocational ministry are only charged a nominal fee.

Funding and Follow-up
I am particularly sensitive to widows coming in to see me. I have completed over 7000 trusts in 20 years or so, and I have widows coming in every month now. My standard procedure is to place the widow on my widow's prayer list for one year and try and be a support for her. In fact, the first thing I do is pray for her in my office. Then I begin to inquire about assets. Invariably, the widow does not know where everything is, has forgotten how the trust is supposed to work, has failed to place the assets all in trust, or has taken some action (either by herself or through her advisor) which is to the detriment of the plan. I leave the widow frustrated and upset because of all that she has to do for me while she is in a state of mind where she cannot reason clearly. That situation had to stop.

I have a service available to the client in which all of the transfers are made and all beneficiaries are changed for the client and an inventory list is completed for the client, the advisor and me. The important thing here is that the client gets a list of all the assets and I have the assurance the trust is properly funded. There is a cost for this service.

Next, I offer the client the opportunity to be enrolled in one of several maintenance plans. These are follow-up plans which involve at least annual reviews of all of the assets to assure they are all where they should be and assure that there is no additional planning needed. If there is, the advisor is notified. I expect many clients will want to meet annually or biannually, in which case the advisor is involved, as are the children. In this manner, the whole family knows the plan (no surprises-no disagreements) and the advisor establishes a relationship with the children. This also includes free phone consultations and a monthly newsletter.

Nursing Home Issues
Nursing home costs concern many people. I have a staff that includes two retired Medicaid review specialists. We can shelter assets so they are not totally depleted on nursing home expenses, even if the person is already in a nursing home. We can also factor that planning into estate plans for my elderly clients.

As a member of the Michigan Forum of Estate Planning Attorneys, the WEALTHCOUNSEL national study group, and the National Academy of Elder Law Attorneys, I have about one thousand attorneys with whom to counsel, and who will help me stay on the cutting edge of estate planning.


Conclusion
This epistle is intended to inform you as to what sets me apart from others in my field, and why my fee structure may differ from others. If you have questions, please feel free to contact me at one of the venues below.

Michael E. Thomas
5206 Gateway Centre, Suite 200
Flint, M1 48507

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